It's Crypto Mondays - ListNerds & It's Downvotes...

It's Crypto Mondays - ListNerds & It's Downvotes... by @jongolson on 3Speak

▶️ Watch on 3Speak --- Tonight was....An interesting discussion! Since we relaunched ListNerds , the whole idea behind it was to help people 'get better' at sending messages to others. Which in tur...

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@rcaine: I believe upvotes should be used for posts where the individual actually put in some effort to create the post. I would upvote splash pages that the individual actually created. I use my downvotes for bad links that show up repeatedly. If they didn't care enough to test their email, why would I reward them? If I ever see, which I haven't, offensive material, I would downvote it. Where I have am indecisive is 1. Generic splash pages I don't vote. If this is a mailer, people should be able to mail splash pages but not be rewarded. 2. Sending the same emails over and over one subscriber, in particular, has very detailed posts about games. They send people to these same posts over and over again. I rewarded them initially but have started downvoting. This is how I have been using my votes now. I did go through a period of all upvotes because I read in a post that I would get more ListNerd tokens. Eventually, I just couldn't do that anymore.

@cpol: Well, I think I use the whole upvote and downvote system very sparingly in ListNerds. The time I downvote something is because there is an obvious case of plagiarism, misinformation or content that shocks me (thank God, I haven't seen anything like this last one in Listnerds, yet). On the contrary, to upvote something, it has to add something very useful to me personally, like those mails about embedding images in ListNerds, new ways to earn money or something very pleasing, like a good set of pictures or a delicious recipe. I think all of that deserves a good upvote! When a link isn't included, I can't upvote or downvote it. So, I just report it. The same thing when there's a dead link or a link that leads to a page that seems shady, even though it isn't so. As my "voting power" in ListNerds is so low, I try to use it only in cases of really outstanding or alarming content. For that reason, I can't upvote or downvote everything. At first, I didn't understand the icons, they were too little or disconnected from mail subjects. Nevertheless, and as the time passed by, I noticed them and learned how to use them, thanks to the good ListNerds documentation around. I hope you find my point of view useful! !PIZZA !HBIT

@rzc24-nftbbg: I usually don't do downvotes except in rare cases. In my more or less 8 months on Hive, I think I just did it twice or three times. As for ListNerds, after watching your YouTube channel this morning and hearing the reasons for downvotes, I did downvote one for the first time for I see no point in sharing an article outside of Hive with almost zero interaction with the content he is sharing. As for dead links, yes I see many, but I just ignore them. Reputation is good as well as the prior acquaintance on Hive, but still, I don't automatically upvote an email because of these. I recognize that value is subjective, but if I see that, though I don't know the person and he has a low reputation, he deserves an upvote.

@amirtheawesome1: I actually wrote about this 7 8 days ago and said that one of the main reasons I powered up is to downvote. I think I shared an image in the discord server of two "different" accounts sharing the same thing, which their entire link (In their almost identical title) was the reputation link. There's an entire group of people who work together, including two who were already caught by Hivewatchers for plagiarising slowly rising, and I already see three of them in the top 50 in rep and LN rich list. There are some more details I can't share here. Whether we like it or not, this is on us as listnerds members and community. People think it's nice to just upvote everyone. I'd argue it's also nice to make sure that rewards go to people working hard, not only with quality content but also engaging properly with every mail they receive and interacting with others, as well as attempting to bring people on board. I remember making the Listnerd curation idea/post, a few days later thisismylife created a welcoming message/picture. Now I see Jimmy and Bestart having their own and working hard to spread the word. Forget about my team, as obviously I would be biased there. It's unfair to have the work of someone like Jimmy and Bestart treated the same way as someone who shared a random article online about superfood or some clothing site that they have nothing to do with. Downvotes are important, I'd argue as important as upvotes. It's the community's job to do that.

@hetty-rowan: Oh yes, I definitely use the UP and DOWNvote. If I see a mail that is not adding any value to me, or obviously plagiarized, I don't hesitate to use the downvote button. On Hive, I can't remember that I ever downvoted, but in Listnerds it's not rare anymore. The tricky thing with this, however, is that it is different to everyone what they consider "adding value" and "quality". So there is something that needs to be addressed, I think. What can be considered bringing value? For person A it can mean that they are looking from their own perspective, and a referral link without any information can mean that they add value in their opinion. While person B finds it annoying and not adding value at all. Same with the blogs that are shared. The goal is obviously to draw attention to your blog. But if the blog is not to your liking, is that adding value? Even if the sender obviously took a lot of time to work on the blog and mail? Besides this, the amount of CTP you have staked also makes a big difference. And the amount of Hive / money you can, and are willing to spend to buy CTP. There are many variables here.

@mba2020: Being the first mailer ever to have up and downvotes is amazing. I hate getting downvotes primarily because I do not know what it is I need to improve so I am doing a lot of trial and error to improve as best I can as soon as possible. Upvoting is a lot of fun. I enjoy supporting those that take the time to create good content and promote it on Listnerds. I also upvote all of those that try to build their brand and list with personalized LCPs. I try my best to do this daily but have had a bit of bad luck lately and I have some holes in my performance that I am working very hard to remedy. I can not wait to see where everything is 1 year from today 😀

@josediccus: But why would someone upvote a dead link rather than checking it out properly to see if it deserves a downvote? I think it's tricky, the emails should work to meet a standards. It's a dicey issue though. Thanks for talking about it with your guests.

@cybercrypt0: I have seem some people do downvote but very few people. Reason for less downvotes are 1. Its human psychology to more like than dislike, if they dislike they just leave instead of down voting 2. Not enough votes, like me for e.g I have only 4 votes. I might not wanna use to down vote someone. Instead upvote and help some good content. 3. No spammy mails. Even though some looks spams, but on our platform yet I have't seen spam or fraud links so that I will downvote them.

@mypathtofire: I've only been on ListNerds for a few days and find the use of most features quite intuitive and that includes the Up/Downvotes. So far I have only used the Upvotes and this is when the link I have found to be of a high quality and the link is from a trusted source. This is my first time using Email marketing and am finding the process good so far and am discovering new content that I wouldn't normally find. Keep the developments coming, I looking forward to collect those Listnerd Tokens.

@ironshield: Non marketers are pursuing this organically, adjusting the strategy and learning what works and what doesn't. Listening for feedback, tweaking here, removing there, adding here. This is all natural for a non marketer. Marketers have been trained "this is how you do it" and push forward regardless of feedback and negative reinforcement, then they complain when they don't get the success they believe they deserve. How do I know this? I just described myself as a marketer! I made the decision to become a non marketer and it changed everything.

@shohana1: Well downvotes really demotivate user to write and stay active with any platform, For example, if I get downvote I may quit the platform right there and this is my honest statement. There are many blockchain platform that pays for writing and people want to have positive response when they knows that they are original content creator and they deserves better. Thanks for the discussion.

@devpress: I think downvoting is often need to be practiced to clean out some of the content which does not deserve to be in feed, now in the context of listnerds, that comes in list. I also noticed that a lot of those issues happen because people just want to bombard the offer and move on. And often that does not work as people have this mindset to be knowing the person and have a connection before buying anything from their links.

@jfang003: I only have so much stake in Listnerds and that is going up slowly over time. So I only vote what I think is good but if there were rewards for downvoting and it not getting verified, then more people would. Posted Using LeoFinance Beta

@yeckingo1: I very rarely vote against any content on both hive and Listnerds. For two main reasons. The first and most important is to respect the effort that everyone makes in their publications even if they are not to my liking. The second is not to create a bad environment, when someone is voted negatively, for whatever reason, a negative environment is created in which the votes are no longer made for a real and impartial reason but for many other reasons. This creates mistrust and mistrust destroys communities.

@fiberfrau: I have started using downvotes if I see the same impersonal ad multiple times with no changes/effort shown. Please clarify what the report button is for: missing links? nonsecure links? Since I have lots of votes to give, I want to be a blessing to the Listnerds ecosystem by using them wisely.

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