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Hello, Tropilla. Well, today is a day special, because we have our great Gallo Dabusa. For who don't know you, that I think you all know you, the company, Gallo Dabusa, is a military, tenient of the Airsitia, and that, also, was destined in the Hume. Cosa that we've been very well to find a lot of information of, well, how it has been overing with the theme of Valencia. Well, I want to you to tell us all what we've talked to us for telephone, because the truth is that has much information, not only of the UME, but the Well, my mano, how are you? How are you? Much thanks, Naucer, for offer me this possibility. A salute very cordial and very martial to all your friends. Well, tell us. How has lived the burrada that they did in Valencia, and what you've that seems impossible, is to say, from outside of the forces armadas, the people, the movie that we've done, that he had done all the possible, from the first moment, to save to the Valencianos. That is a mental, that's a and the structure and the manoeuvre, is to say, how it's how it's envelopes in the forces armadas. So, I understand that it was my obligation to put that information for that people could opinion with con-conociment of cause. I was, I was in the Hume, too, one of the bestances destinos that I've. The Hume is with a better trainingment and a better equipment, the tasks that they've been commended, always, all the life, the forces armadas, of protection of the citizens in cases of catastrophe. In fact, the name, Unidad Military of Emergencies, that is a redundancy. Practically, all the unities militares. In verano, they had a retent that was retained in the quartel, of there the name of retent, without permissos, and, and, to be mobilized in cases of incendiions forestals. And, and they were utilized. In the inundations of Valencia, in 1957, was mobilized the In the in the inundations of Bilbao in 1998, also, also mobilized the EGercito. And, not existia, is, not we don't let us engage in the Eumme, that I think that is in other things, to confunders, is to make sure, to make sure, to make sure, that's the time of circumstances, of emergencies, when no-hires, that the only that you can use is the Hume. False and a with what you are castraining the capacity that has the exercise, also, to be there. Sure. It's that there is the thing. I, I mean, there's a mal faith in the creation of the Hume, precisely that, to distractor, to say, well, if I'm a man in a very gourdah, no mobilized the army, the people will be able to get tranquil, because, hey, mobilize a Hume. The Hume are 3,500 effective in all of Spain. The forces armadas in general, super them the 100,000. And the medios that has the Hume, the MES that are very specific, for example, have many camions of bombers and things so, but even, even the Hume, all the battalions of the Hume, that there 5 in Spain, have transports orugas acorazados, the M113 American. That vehicle, of cadenas, is amphibio, and they're all the battalions of the Hume. And when I go amphibio, it's because, recordemes what happened in Valencia. Well, it's the vehicle ideal to get in a riada. That also, too, is that, let's see, in the same Valencia, the day 29 of October, there there were six regiments and a few battalions. Of those six regiments, one of them was the regiment of Cavalieria Lusitania No, 8, that dispone, that that have capacity to badear up to a meter and a medium. Yeah, with that one move, for Valencia, in a moment, quite well, not to meeters in all the cities. But also, also, they're the vehicle of exploration of caballiery, the beck, of 17 tonalas, 6 -rudes, completely amphibio. And with that, well, I've donecied to have donecied that coronel, Don Alberto Morales, that was the chief of that regime in the day 29 of October of the year Why? Because this sir, without having received any order, had to have mobilized all those effectives. And no, he did. No, no, no, of the affected people, said, have seen, any, a centauro, or a vehicle of exploration of caballieria in the hours critical, when those vehicles, with that personnel, trained for it for it, could have supposed the difference between the life and the for that who not want to understand the gravity of what's succeeded, of what not occurred, that had occurred, is that is that intervention with all the means of the forces armadas. The case of someone that he gets a riotar, he gets to engage in an arbor, it's got two hours, or you me contests the case of who there was who've got to one hour, right? Yes, with hypotermia, empaped, with the air. in the situation of that person. That, at a point of disfallecer, you, you're going to leave, because you know, no, no, you know, and you know, that 15 minutes of where you are the Regiment of Lusitania, that has all those medias, and you're you, but, but, and why are you, because they're not, because they're not, why not Well, I don't know, the soldiers, no, the soldiers, no, the colonel, with absolute security. And if not, I was thinking in, and if me pillion, because that man, not had to have ever expected any order to intervene, none. Imaginemone us a case, let's see. in the Moncloa and another in the Ministry of Defense. And, meanwhile, the troops Marroquise, enter in Ceuta, Melilla, canaries, and still, they're disembarked in Almeria. By having disappeared the cupula, supposedly, the troops, not have to do nothing. It's Well, well, the same that not should be occurred in this case, that I'm going to happen, for the same logic. Because is that, even the forces armadas are prepared for that in a moment of down, it's romp the chain of the mando, well, because they're all the officials superior, or because they're incommunicated, there's a problem of communications, and then what has to do the trope, the force? Is that it has to dissolve or disappear, no, they're to continue to actuando. But also it's previsto, imagineemones, that, in the other to caer the three missiles, that, God, could that caller and not caeran, then, so that would have sequestered. And with a Pistone in the head, that don't bring them to the billetets, you know, that's resolved, because to convince us to all our authorities of that not to opusied to the invasion of Marroquy. well, logically. Well, it was what what happened, for example, with the case, the history not us to tell, of Guzman, the Well, or the Coronel Moscard in the Alcazar. So, then, what are to have to do the troops? Nothing? Soportar, no. No, they're to intervene. Well, in Valencia, the same. Look, no me tell you, another movie. Exactly, the same. And who who don't want to see it, is because it's And, also, for the most I've seen in some other movie, of militares, that when, say, there is a general or a colonel corrupt, the, that is immediately inferior to him in rank, he's a point with a pistol, and he says, you've been detained, for a We don't want to pay to that bandylla of gandulles with 50,000 medallas, but ganadas, go to know how, at the more with the rodilliers. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, that passen of him and that, that are going to do it, and I'm waiting, a captain, you know, I don't pido, to there to be to-rave-na-na -nady, a simple captain, that coja his company and that I'm asked, if they've been atreveed your tenient, the chief of the battalion, or the colonel, the chief of the regiment, to say that no? A lot more if they're in that moment, they're a problem. Because he was doing with his demer, and they were those who were impeding. I'm absolutely sure, absolutely sure, of that those orders of not actuar, exist. I don't have no There will who think, no, no, no, it could be, because if that would have occurred, someone, have said something. How? There was a Cabeau, one, that he's atreve to say what had passed. In the mando of operations specials in Alicante, Eric Silva, that they, that they've retained four days, until the day 2 of November, and when, for for the less, go to explore in the coaches that there, that was all full of, of coaches, to be if they were, to find someone, let's prohibition expressly, to look victims. This man, this man, he said, is that that he said, Eric, in some videos that were 8 months of suspension of employ and sweldo and per die of the destiny. Is that is sanctioned to sanctioning to the culpables of that delit of omission, of the DeVere of Socorro, sanctioned, Erich, for contarned, which, also, viola the Convention of the Nations United, contraption, the Convention, the Convention. and the Directive European, of Protection to the Informant, with its Law of Transposition to Spain, the Law 2, 2023, of protection to the informant. It's, that our authorities, are limpian, salvage to the part, with all our laws. So, of course, also, also, with that antecedent, of those repressalias, that we're going to expect that no, no, not how it would be functioned, it's evident that it had to have orders expressed for not intervene. Because, if no, they'd have the six regiments and all the other. In Valencia, there is a battalion of helicopters of emergency, the number two. It's supposed that the function principal of those helicopters is salvavidas, if not that's the function principal, that they're No, I see. The 29 and the rest of the days, no, no, no, no, no, no, there was a helicopter in Valencia, in the zone of Catarroja, and it was the carloja, and it was the person, and were arresting an helicopter of intervention rapid of the Waria Civil, from Madrid to, to Valencia, to arrest to those three persons and get them. It's the only helicopter that has been there, helping. Well, and that many people are... Algo, but no, all we both, we know, the carabanas of policies scolding to Perro Sanchet or a subadad, the rei, and they don't get anything. They're going to get to, nobody. But where did those people, there's not yet. But where, and where were those people's in the day 29? Because, of course, we're for other thing, no, he saw. They were complices of genocidio, because, also, well, I have a much material with the documental, that, lamentably, no, no, has given time to terminate it for, now, to complete the year, but all the forces of the Because, while the militares not absolutely nothing, or they'd just do absolutely nothing, the police... Finginginging what they did. Finging for the photos. There's a video fortisimpses that there's a carmion military, full of militares, with the door open for the to go, because the barrow, he gets to the toes, pardon, to the rodillas, and, and they're, and they're, they're, they're going to, and they're going to, and nobody's back, and just after, and then, and then, a civil, a citizen normal, like a gorrita, uh, parra the coach, he, he's So, that's just so you do you do, so you're just in two conditions, if you're a man, and we're talking of a carmion, or if they had orders of not backers of the carmion. Oh-oh. Is that, is that, that's, they've got, that type of orders, they're received. Exactly. No, there's other option. No, there's two. And no, and no, and not there are 20, kids of put there, has been, that have received orders expresses and castigues, if not obeysed. And then, the police and the Guardia Civil. evitating that, that their mothers with 70, 80, 90, 90, years, that they were there, trapped, and, without that nobody was to get to eat to eat to your mother, and help her to give to your mother, to help her, or even to take her a sicarios, mercenaries, shirros, lacallions. A putta verguyen. In a country civilized, those visitants, his majesty, his majesty, and the president of the government, not have been out of VALENCIA, but, well, because not we're not in a the parient of the, the, of the, of those who they're not going to permit, because that is culpable. I mean, that nobody thinks that this is a phenomenon natural. It's not natural that 8,000, 8,000, 8,000 soldiers in Valencia, that were that same day, that at 9 of the morning, with all the trope quartered, they're Simplyly, it's the time to, at the 2 of the afternoon, in the way to send them to his house, or, as far as, man, that day, that casuality. But, no, no, there's that, but, if, is that, nobody's, they've, that's the labor for that they entered in the forces armadas, because not entered for another. Look, I'll tell you a case. The Regimento Principia, In Asturias, has two battalions, Toledo and San Quinting. The same day 29 of October of the year past, in the battalion Toledo, at the last night of the afternoon, there were 150 soldiers ready to get to Valencia. Saliered the day 12th of November, 14 days after. Why? Because, because they received orders expresses of not But is that, still more grave is the case of the Battagion Toledo, of which not even that was prepared nobody to go to Valencia, because that battalion had to be in Slovakia. And I think I, how important had to do the Battalion, San Quintin, in Slovakia, to march to Slovakia, in the that would have been the contingentes desplegated in Slovakia or in Letonia, me it seems that there are also, to Spain, where more faulty, no, no. So, so, you know for who are the forces armadas? The problem is that, that, that's that, you know, until you've been a lot of time, don't you know, that's that he did a posta, that was prepared, and all of that. But, of, who, who, who arrest a capo? That is the problem. Sure, there is that. It's for that, the formula of Jura-de -Band-Roura-Band-Bendera, because he asks obedience and respect to the rea to our chiefs and not abandoners, never. If you put me put a good jefe, then, but if you put me Respecter and Obedecer to those delinquents is to be complice of the delinquents. Yeah, well, to be, to be if they enter in the head to the people that have uniform. That the obedience not a virtue if you obeisces to a delinquent. It's complicity. And, for the time, you also, you also have to pay your part of responsibility, because every minute that all were crossed with the When when I prepared your video, me, I mirro all the cars, these of combat, the Piranha and all this, how people could have saved with those cars, going by the streets, you know, and, you know, are complices of a genocidio? Yeah, every minute of retraso is a, well, a mortal, a more, much more of a murder. But is that not only only in Valencia, in Valencia, you know, between 7,000, 8 ,000 effectives, that same day, without necessity to go to look at their house. But is that two hours of Valencia, there were operations special. Yeah, I tell you, that they were retained four days. A four hours of Valencia, is Cartagena. where is the terseo de levante of infantry of marina, where they have those vehicles that, you said you, the Pyrains, that also badean, or the vehicles of asalt to amphibio, that can't, that can't go in the water, if you're going to use, that's another. At the same four hours of Valencia, is also in Zaragoza, where we have, for example, the Regiment of Pontoneros and Specialities of Engineers No. All that problem that was in the communications, no, is that the water, the water, so the engineers, the function of the engineers in the forces armadas is difficult the movement of the enemy and facilitate the movement proper. So, to facilitate the movement proper, precisely, the regiment of pontonero is what it has, is Puentes of Pontones. and puentes, desmontables. It's just, nothing more that disappears the point, in when it's a little bit of the water, and in 10 minutes, they're on a point. And it's the problem. But not only so. Sure, and the machinery that has the engineers, but it's that, also, every battalion of the Hume, the five battalion and the Regiment of Reserva in Madrid, also have a company of engineers. It's Three companies are of intervention and a company of engineers. Then, there's a company of services, but one is another thing, but in all the case, we have 400th, which are those that would only in Valencia, the day 29 of October, and only of the Hume. 400, they're 1,000. For what they're Yes, no, pardon. The General Marcos minted, because he said that no, he said, and then, but, but, he said, he said, and then, but he said, yes, he said, and he said, we're to make 1,000 the second day, that is that it was that he had to make 100 the first? And the question is, but, you know, is it, imagineemones. Imaginemon us the case that I tell you, of a invasion Marroquy. Necessita, a unit military, permission, for, for intends to deten to the Since when someone needs permission to do that's permission to dover? Necessi, they need the bombers, permission to go to a building? No, no, no, they need any permission. It's their obligation. And if someone says that no do it, is a crime, and if they're obeysed to that order, they're committing the same delitio, the same, exactly, because from Newrympeg for here, there no There is a sentence, the truth is that is quite ridiculous, of the Tribunal Supreme, the Sala of the Military, precisely, that the obedience, is that authority, emanate the law, and if the chief, impugn't, the law, pierde that authority. Well, very well, that's stupend, but what, and what did now, for example, the Tribunal Supreme, with the denuncia that we present us, various decenas of Spaniards, against the Carnicero of Valencia, against Marcos? without investigating, saying that all what we're denunciable, is, is that what occurred, more the despliegues of the army, that could have been used, is to say, all those units that I'm enumering, those are, that are a chance, is that. That's Well, we're going to recurring. That, that, that's, that's saying that only I'm saying that's just a mafia, also. So, who's, who are you? Well, is that, let's get to arrest the capo? Well, get, we're getting to get the question. It's that there is that corruption political and negar the hypothesis, if there is a corruption judicial, that is the lampara. Well, is that it's that it's very magistrates that the three magistrates that are the auto, for the while inadmitted my denuncia and the other citizens, for that, incumpiying the law, is that in clear prevarication, in the way to mandar the denuncia who had to resolve, that is the Tribunal Supremo, they're they, they've put them, they're taking them, well, for that is very important, the effect raffagued in the denuncias, because 100 judges, 99 archivar, and one, of a for ver if there was some judge in Spain, no. In Spain, there's no one anecdote very good of Federico, L'Grady, that wanted to get to finders, and the Molinero, and then Federico L'Grane, it was menace, and expropriarselos, and he responded, the Molinero, even there are judges in Prusia. Well, in Prussia, I don't see if there were judges in three years, but, evidently in Spain, today, no those are. No, that So, the question is very easy. Unities disponibles, yes, but is that, not only the regimen of engineers pontooneros that I do in Zaragoza, also there are another regiment of caballieria, with the same medios that had the Lusitania No, No, 8 of Valencia, and a regimented, and a regimented, pavie, that also disposed of vehicles, acoracredos of these and amphibious. They're used, no, they're at the 12th of the midi-day, of the day 29, at the 4 of the afternoon, to have been in Valencia, to patrued the streets, with those of Lusitania. But no, no, no, they did. And at 10 hours of Valencia, we have also two regiments of engineers, one in Burgos and other in Salamanca, that also in Salamanca, that also dispone, to restablercations and facilitate the movement of all the operative. So, they used, no, because no, because no Pardon, because there was a voluntal of not utilizes, that not is the same. So, if we have those details, is that there, there were medias, incontestable. I calculate that the first day, with a little bit of voluntar, they'd be able to join in Valencia between 30,000 and 40 ,000 effectives of the army. Well, between the army, the…