How to Beat your Kids (or NOT beat them) - A Friendly Cross Culture debate (Untangled Knots #4.2)

@young-boss-karin: What @josediccus said about being responsible at a young age. I felt that. I'm the last child but my parents never made me think for a second that I could depend on anyone. So from a young age, they told me that if they left this life I was going to be alone so the best I could do for myself was fix my life and get responsible as early as possible. They know I'll have no tangible inheritance to fall back on and really, my older siblings have their own lives to take care of so I was generally alone. While I still take them as my primary providers, they generally don't give me much anymore. I'd like to be on your show at some point. I love this topic. Talking about my childhood always brings me new clarity every time I think about it. I never got training through beating though. I was generally a good kid so beating was never the right punishment for me. It never helped me. I never deserved that pain and I can count how many times I was beaten personally. I still think it's barbaric. It's not the best way.

@wittywheat: I disagree with beating children. Even though I'm only a volunteer but I usually work very hard to keep them entertained and I try my best to let them know the consequences of not receiving an education. Basically, I had to tell them that if they are illiterate, they can get cheated very easily, especially if they had to sign an agreement to purchase land, property, etc. Their hard work goes to waste when they get scammed. Sometimes, I have a feeling that only those with early childhood education or child psychology majors should become parents. A majority of other ignorant and entitled people who fXXked irresponsibly did too much unintentional damage to their kids. This is could be a reason for so much unhappiness in the world.

@minismallholding: Every time I come to your podcasts lately it's late as I quickly go through the community and hubby is sleeping, so I can't put the sound on. Kind of wishing you had a transcript too.

@momogrow: I do not agree with beating children. It does not necessarily teach discipline or obedience only possibly conformity out of fear. It is a form of bullying and only alienates the child from the parent. No one likes to be hit for no any reason most certainly not a child who looks to the adult for security and safely. It is not a good approach.

@josediccus: I think, different people would see this based on their sociocultural perspective and upbringing this is why I don't think establishing a basis of "rightness" or "wrongness" exists in this situation. Many cultures differs when it comes to disciplining kids or teaching them the right way. I think whatever works is whatever works. At the end of the day, I'm glad we tended to differ in most of our views on that podcast. Ching Yi's perspectives were great as well. I can't see better people to talk to this except you both. It's been an amazing time, ever. Since the first episode. Keep killing it Zack. Hahaha

@tunkem1: I disagree with beating children, in all degree. I know and believe there are other channel to make them conform to whatever ideas we desire, that would not involve physical touch or abuse. This was a great watch. Hope to see more episodes

@iskafan: So, where do we place this part of the scripture "Spare the rod, and spoil the child" 🤔

@sommylove: Our parents have different ways of training us which they thinks is the very best they think and it has help us in great ways.

@josediccus: @tipu curate

@jaydr: So I had this open saw a bit of it and probably got carried away by something only to find the tab still open today. I m glad it didn't go off as I still get to share. I feel beating children is a lot cultural than human. We weren't meant to be beating to sense, the ideal thing is reason to sense. If I make a child see reasons why what he did is wrong and he accepts and apologizes ( they ll have to be thought to do this) I see no reason beating. By the way I say this as someone who was beaten in the past. Not that I see them as wrong now, I saw it as correctional in their own ideaology. But spoiling the child with the rod also draws some concern. Great show.

@ai-summaries: Here is a detailed summary article about the episode: Exploring Cultural Perspectives on Discipline: A Nuanced Discussion In this thought provoking discussion, our guests delved into the complex and often controversial topic of disciplining children, drawing from their diverse cultural backgrounds. The conversation highlighted the nuances and challenges inherent in this sensitive issue. Differing Approaches to Discipline The guests shared their personal experiences growing up in different environments. One guest, who was raised in Nigeria, described a culture where physical punishment, such as beating with belts, was commonly used as a disciplinary tactic. He explained that this was often seen as a necessary and even loving way to correct a child's behavior, with the goal of instilling responsibility and moral values. In contrast, the other guest, who grew up in a more Western cultural context, expressed strong opposition to physical punishment, viewing it as abusive and potentially damaging to a child's development. He emphasized the importance of positive reinforcement and open communication as more effective means of guiding a child's behavior. The Complexities of Cultural Context The discussion underscored the significant role that cultural context plays in shaping societal norms and attitudes towards child rearing practices. The guests acknowledged the difficulty in making universal judgments, as what may be considered unacceptable in one culture could be viewed as a legitimate form of discipline in another. One guest highlighted the nuance involved, noting that the intent behind the physical punishment, rather than the act itself, was often the determining factor. He explained that in his upbringing, beating was not done out of anger or malice, but rather as a purposeful and systematic approach to correcting behavior and instilling values. The Challenges of Parenting Both guests recognized the inherent challenges of parenting and the importance of being mentally and emotionally prepared for the responsibility. They discussed the prevalence of parents who are ill equipped to handle the demands of raising children, leading to potentially harmful disciplinary practices. The guests emphasized the need for greater support systems, education, and societal shifts to help parents develop the necessary skills and mindsets to effectively guide their children's development without resorting to physical punishment. Towards a More Holistic Approach As the discussion progressed, the guests acknowledged the complexities involved and the difficulty in finding a universal solution. They recognized the value in open and respectful dialogue to better understand different cultural perspectives and explore alternative, non violent approaches to discipline. The guests expressed a desire to continue this conversation, highlighting the importance of seeking common ground and finding ways to address the underlying issues that contribute to the use of physical punishment, while respecting the diverse cultural contexts in which these practices have been rooted.

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@gangstalking: Whoever is directly controlling the V2K told me to kill myself. They told me if I killed myself now it would save the lives of countless others. Saying the longer I wait to kill myself the more people will suffer. They are reckless and should have shown the proper media what they had before taking me hostage for 5 years. I know there are many in prison that dont deserve to be there because of this. Your stay in prison will not be fun @battleaxe and friends. People are going to want you dead when they find out what you did. I hope you die a slow painful death. You sick mother fuckers. Its a terrorist act on American soil while some say its not real or Im a mental case. Many know its real. This is an ignored detrimental to humanity domestic and foreign threat. Ask informed soldiers in the American military what their oath is and tell them about the day you asked me why. Nobody has I guess. Maybe someone told ill informed soldiers they cant protect America from military leaders in control with ill intent. How do we protect locked up soldiers from telling the truth?