John Hutchison Interviewed by Tom Sky in his Vancouver Lab (2007) by @mes on 3Speak
In this video I have uploaded a rare 2007 interview of John Hutchison in his Vancouver lab apartment by photographer Tom Sky and his Polish engineer uncle. John also runs a Hutchison Effect experim...
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So my lawyer got involved with, this for my own, protecting my interest with all this stuff, right? So that's how... What we understand the physicists put together is a circular cylinder of unknown height. When the fields are interacting, something's formed there, a third derivative. It seems to make things weightless, and they either just simply are weightless or they float. But sometimes they have a propulsion to them, where they actually go up so fast they hit the ceiling. Other times, these things will move sideways. So that's indication of some type of force, the play there. You don't use any energy, any frequency to that, or you use? I use, well, everything happens at a distance from the equipment itself, and it's radio frequencies, multiple radio frequencies, that are specialty type. kinds of frequencies like, I'll maybe use a saw-tooth continuous wave pulsed, a band of frequencies, and then I'll use electrostatics. Somehow there's a very strong relationship between these two. And pulsating direct current fields. The only other thing I use is an alpha-beta source, which is tritium. It's about 200 millicaries. and that is located within the electrostatic field. Do you have any writing, like, referrats or news in a newspaper in a scientist paper or no? Did you write something about that? No, as you know, I'm not a scientist, but what has been going on for the last number of years, other scientists have been writing up books and papers on it, on what I'm doing. So... I'm not a writer, I don't... I see, I see. No, I'm more of an engineer kind of fellow, I... Can you describe it, I... explorer, artist. Yeah, because that's when I am more, I'm not a scientist, I won't go into it. You know, I am an engineer from Poland, you know, and when Tom said me about you, I saw you a few years ago in Abotsford TV, you know, because I am living in Abotsford. Okay. And, you know, I saw you, it was some program with you. Hmm. Do you know about or no? I have no idea. A few years ago, you know, I saw, and when Tom told me about that, you know, I said, oh, I know this guy, you know, from the news. They show, you know, when you were collecting big transformers, you know, you said that you are buying transformers in different places, you know. And I knew, but now, you know. I wonder, my questions was, you know, it's only for me, about this, this, this... Levitation. You know, I was wondering, did you, I am septic, you know, to everything. Good. Like an engineer, you know, for me, you know. I am too, you know. I am too. Yeah, and, you know, I was wondering, do you use additional energy to pick it up? These things or no? No, no, the energy is when the energy is constant. So from the house mains here. So when there's, say, the frequencies match up, then something will happen, but there's no increase in primary energy. Okay, but you have to, you have to, you have to generate some frequency. Oh, many of different frequencies, yes. Yeah, you have to generate. Yes. Yeah, okay. Because yesterday Tom asked me about, you know, the energy meter in electrical, at home, you know, the meter. Mm-hmm. And I explained him how it is working, you know, and we were thinking that maybe it's the same idea in your... Like the Hall effect. Like, like, you know, the... Two magnetic fields. You know, if you have, you have, you know, if you have, you know, rotated currents. How do you call it? Lorenz forces on that. Yeah, there's ways you can levitate, other, like conventional levitation. Like magnet-leven, you can use a linear transformer, or a propulsion coil, and you get an aluminium going up and it'll follow down. That's direct. And it is the same idea or no, what you are doing, no? No, no, very different. The other one, of course, is direct connection, which is a high voltage wire connected to a plate. That was T-Towns and Brown's work, and I replicated some of his work, and I found it quite interesting. That's where you have high voltage coming onto a capacitance plate, and the thing will start spinning around and moving around on its own, which is interesting. Then there's a lifter tech, where you have the high voltage on a very light frame, metal on it, and one wire running to it with high voltage going to that, and it'll lift right up. I think that's more of, to be honest, I think that's more of an ion for it, ion wind force. Yeah. Which is very interesting into itself, though. Yeah. You could have that self-contained, you'd have a unique device, Ryan Drive, Orion Power. And in this case, it's a remote situation using RF and electrostatics. Now, electrostatics unto themselves will lift small things up and throw them around. Yeah. Or you can actually have them float around. One thing you used to do in experiments is have a V-shaped piece of metal. of, let's say, aluminium, and it'll float around the outside of a round ball, which is electrostatically charged. It's quite intriguing what electrostatics can do. Yeah, it was in the past years, you know, it was like a Leydei's bottle. Did you listen about this? The laden jar? Bottle, like a bottle, like a bottle, you know. two small, like we said, the leaves, aluminum leaves, you know, and if you put high voltage to that, you know, the leaves was... Oh, a electroscope. Yeah, something like that, yeah. Electroscope was, you know, to make this voltage. Yes, yes, I know that. The old first one was Ben Franklin, he made a round ball, a glass, post on it, you could turn this ball, and he had horse hair collecting the... static from it. Is your levitation experiment relating in any way to acoustic levitation, for example, because they do experiments with, you know, sound frequencies to move some small objects, hang them in there? At least that's what I've seen on YouTube. Well, I've done that too. Heavy. And I've done it with Berium Titanate, heavy. heavy material. How heavy? About seven pounds. Oh, and it was up? It was maybe only millimeters up, and it would move around by itself, but it affected the objects around it, and then move them around, too. That I actually demonstrated for LightWorks audio and video, the race to zero point. Mm-hmm. And it was actually a fun experiment to do, because you can just turn it on and you can have do all kinds of funny things with it. And if you tried to grab that barium cylinder, you couldn't. It's like a force fuel around, it's slick. Wow. So, unfortunately, one of my girlfriends really loved doing it, too. And we used the crown amplifier. It was, I believe, 600 series, roughly 2 ,000 watts out, and then it would go 0 to 110 volts. So if you talked into a microphone, you could light up a light bulb and you could see the modulated form of the light bulb. So this thing was tied into that amplifier. Unfortunately, she left it on too long and she actually burned out the transistors in it. So I said, okay, you know, it's a bit of a shame because I could be portable and take a 200-pound Crown amp. That's how much it weighed with handles on it and then the barium. and go on a lecture tour and set it up and show people how you could do acoustic levitation. So frequency influenced anti-gravity has any relation with acoustic levitation, for example, because those are also waves, you know, attacking the object. That's right. A good point is kind of like sound waves doing similar things as radio waves. So there is some relation probably there. I would think so. It's the closest relation here. Think of it, when that was going, it affected objects around it. You can see them moving around, which was away from the actual equipment. So seems like the object that is being lifted resonates on its own somehow. It picks up the vibrations. from the source or? I use feedback because barium type native is used in sonar. So, and then in sonar, like these machines here and others, they have a sonar head, and they sent out the sonar signal. So this stuff was available from fair radio sales in Ohio, and it had the capabilities of self-charging itself. It's almost a free energy thing. And actually, when the word got out about it, the fair radio was sold out of this stuff. People are still begging for it, and nobody wants to sell it. So, when I got it, I know that's been acoustic in nature. I was playing with it, and it gave off massive amount of sparks, almost electrocuted myself in one experiment. Then I tried to, the experiment where I had the amplifier going right into it, and then with a microphone. set up a feedback loop and that caused it to resonate. Fascinating experiment. Wow, it's just mind-boggling. It's a very squeal-y sounding kind of thing and that attracted the squirrels coming in here through the window. So I showed some people the experiment and the squirrels came in too. I guess the high sounds seem to attract animals but they came in. My friend from Japan is... laughing at you. So is there any, like, a recipe to do your experiment at home, to replicate it, you know, the anti-gravity, or you just don't really share? Oh, I share as much as I kind of share this army intelligence. I share with everybody. Wow. I have, I do not wish Nobel, I don't want Nobel Prize, Nobel Prizes or patents or anything. I told my producer, I said, this stuff is, if somebody can understand it and replicate it, good. So, one scientist has Ken shoulders, and the United States has replicated aspects of it, and a few others are replicating and playing with it, quite a bit. But for, um, really getting involved in this is I would recommend starting out with electrostatic generators and testicles. Unusual effects do happen with them. I have a device called electrostatic removal, remover. It's like it's got a spinning wing for air ventilation. If you want to make more wind, yeah, I'll stop for a moment, maybe, just to preserve my body. On wind, let's say in an area that's dry, then you have a big spinning disk, and they would show you how to make one of these little motors. And if, let's say you're in a room, and you have a small bandigraph generator, and one of these motors, it'll actually start spinning on its own. Okay, but it is air. It's going to rotate, yeah? Air. Earth is always rotate, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's why we get some liftoffs here that are on an angle. Yeah, I see. Some of them go on an angle, like, the lift-off of the Earth, or the rotation of Earth. It's bending. But luckily it does that, because it was just simply stalled in, we'd have something like a missile at 212 miles per second blow through the... This rotation, how big rotation in this air is? Well, I was speaking of the main rotation of the solar system on the edge of the galaxy. Because there's our time relationships to every one. Now the Earth rotation, I mean, about 18 miles a second. Yeah, but here in, for example, in your laboratory, if you take this 50,000, volts, did you feel this effect, this rotation, rotated air or no? There's some, no, I don't feel anything, there's some side derivative effect. Because you said about motors, and I understand that it is enough, you know, to put to place, yeah, big potential, and should be air, should work. Well, you know, actually, with electrostatics you can have just one by itself, let's say, five feet away, just a plate with specially designed little points on it, sitting on a pin. Yeah. And that will start spinning on its own, if you use them, turn on the electrostatic generator. Oh, these electrodes are rotated, or air? Oh, the motor will. They call them electrostatic motors and they'll start rotating. Because the ions collect to them and they form an ion wind. The ion wind starts spinning these around a bit. I think NASA has this ionic engine. Oh, they actually I saw one. In Nevada State University, I was sitting a scientist friend of my and Dr. Raucher. She took me down in the basement and this massive machine. It was so well made. heavy, it must wait tons, it was a nylon cannon. She says, I'll show you how that works someday, she said. I never got to see it, but I'll have to see that more. You've gone to JPL a lot of times? That's folks there that we gave a talk in Los Angeles in 1997, and they came to the talk, and they were showing me pictures on how they built the Mars lander. Very simple, actually. they had to actually go to a surplus and get radiation hard chips. So, no, I found JPL people, Kennedy Space Center people, want to actually hire me for a while, but their director, they had actually had a meeting, and their director said, well, we want to stay on with our main project. Yeah, yeah, they don't really understand creative people. Well, I was willing to entertain the idea, and the last year was pretty bad because, The U.S. Pentagon, they showed the videos in the U .S. Pentagon, and they had, they had about 400 people watching them, and they got a standing ovation, and say, get John involved with us here, kind of thing. And then they had Timi Ventura from American Antigua, coming around, knocking on my door, and saying, John, you know, we've got to get demonstrations, we can get funding and all that, and I just, I was with a girlfriend at the time, said, Tim, I think the best way for me to go is into the media, and, presented as unique entertainment for everybody else, because going into that situation again, I don't like... Getting involved in... I don't mind it, I mean, it's just that you can't really do anything. Yeah. You can't go... You're away. ...being a show-off like I am a show-off. You can't put it in the news media in that. That's why I didn't sign law of contracts. You can't talk about it with Canadian government. I was presented a contract and I didn't sign it, I still got the contract, never signed it. So it's just too restrictive and I don't like 9 to 5, or the creative energy has to be forced, then... Yeah, it's better to be independent from all the... I like independence and... As long as you have sources, you know, too. to do your work, probably. Yeah, it's strange how my life is that these sources have not seem to be in the entertainment industry, like Discovery people come and go from here. And I get challenges from them, they say, build the Ark of the Covenant. Oh yeah, I heard about it. And I did. They phoned me here, and Bruce Burgess said, John, I got a project for you, I worked for him before, and he says, can you build an Ark of the Covenant, can you do this kind of stuff? Yeah, let me add it. So I worked out of the budget, we did studying on it, and we built it in New West here and tested it. at P&J Metals in Richmond, and it worked. Wow, how did it work? I mean, what was the secret of it? I helped it a little bit, basically electrostatics again. I gave it a little kick charge. Okay. It was damp, cold, it was this time of year. It actually snowed out, and I was with Corinne, and we did the testing. After it's all finished with Acacia wood, and it was laid inside and outside with materials. It did work, beyond what I ever thought it would happen. Because the producers were phoning me saying, John, good luck, because, you know, if it doesn't work, we got problems. I said, okay, I'm kind of nervous about this because, you know, what if it doesn't work, you know? It's like, eh, kind of thing. So, we did the test, Rudy was a cameraman, and they were waiting for the results from Rudy, so it worked fantastic. started very slow and then this great spark jump between the two cherubs. They got stronger and stronger than the sparks started running down the sides of them, into the wood, and the wood started to catch fire, and then this huge fire started. So Rudy said, well, I said, what do you want to do? Rudy's running around, just filming everything. He said, not yet, and then the owner of P&J Metals, he's getting nervous, he's like, this is my metal shop, like, guys, um... I don't want it destroyed. Nigel, his name is, and Paul and John there. So, Rudy eventually said, Corinne, get the fire extinguisher. So she got the fire extinguisher, and then she says, I don't know how to use it. But Rudy's pull a pin, pull a pin and point. It was out and there was a huge mess after, but. So Rudy reported then by cell phone to Bruce and to Renee Barnett, the producers from Blue Book. We had a big rap party that night. So it hasn't aired on Discovery. One of the shows I did last, about almost a year ago, last year was History Channel. Earth's Black Hole, and that's airing now. And we had the stuff running in there and interviews in here. So, yeah, the Ark of the Covenant, that was a channel. Our main show is going to be... The Philadelphia experiment, I'll be working with Dr. Ron Miloloni, a B-A-E systems, he's an engineer in that, and we have the ideas that we can pull it off. And did you have any success in this field, like Philadelphia? Minor success last summer. Minor. And I have a small Navy ship, foot -long, that he tortured. I used high voltage and electrostatic energy on it, and I actually got some strange results. Spark started to come off of it. And it was any changes with the vision of that? I took a lot of photographs and video of it. And it was? It didn't vanish, like, it phased in and out and the camera would shut itself off. But one of my webmasters got the footage and put it on the website. It's kind of interesting because just the other day I was doing some experiments. And I took a quick, like, I always had the video camera pointed in that direction to catch anything if anything happens. Sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it does, but the water started really levitating up out of the container where the ship is. So I actually, what I did was take, like, I have a small digital camera, so I started taking pictures of it. and I can see stop motion of the water drop, that's that really fascinating. So I put it on the blogger, my crazy blog thing, and the photographs, which got a lot of people's attention. So the main thing down in Hollywoodland will be with Ron and myself, will probably use a four-foot model, and I think will blow it up, it'll vanish. because reported in some of these effects is some of these test samples have vanished. Mm-hmm. Disappeared from view, actually from the super 8mm film. Under analysis, they analyzed a frame by frame by frame, and they saw some samples disappear. And they never returned to this place? I got the samples. Mm-hmm. Because I've seen... Under your levitation experiments, certain objects would also disappear. I've read the metals would become different in... Very much so. I have, um, Las Alamos has a lot of those samples, George Hathaway has them, and I got a lot of them here, right here. Can we look at them, maybe? You sure can. Not a problem. Yeah, is possible? Oh yeah, I got... It was like a habit, you know, to make transceiver by own, you know, by my hand. And while I was a young guy, it was tubes, no transistors, nothing like that, you know, and we were experimenting, you know. We took from the radio tubes, you know. Vacuum tubes. Tubbs, yeah, tubes, you know, and we made with my rubber transceiver, you know. It was funny because on different illegal frequencies. I loved doing that too. And you know, it was communist country. Yeah. And you could go to the jail, you know, because it was, you know, iron curtain. Yeah. Okay, we can go, tak. Yeah. Start pulling these out. What's that? These are some of the samples. I got lots of them. A lot of them I gave away to people's friends, but... Oh, it is funny. You see? Yeah. Disruption, right? Yeah. Okay, it's an unusual type of... They've been analyzed a lot by Hathaway's group. Not these ones as yet, but he's got lots of them, as much as I do, I believe. This is stainless steel. Some of these are on video. So, in basic words, can you describe what actually happens in that field of frequency when we place these objects. Well, this is some of the effects we get is metal turning into jelly. This is not, it looked like there was almost a separation in this piece here, but it…