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@shanibeer: Me (and lots of people) have been in this discussion before. The easy tag/strap/pitch then was: join hive. learn crypto. explore an interest. The first two are great, especially earn crypto turning into learn crypto . The third, though true and honest, not so sticky. Taking what you are saying: join hive. learn crypto. own your data. or join hive. learn crypto. censorship free. the one I'm playing with is: join hive. learn crypto. create new worlds. I'm thinking of having that in a circle around a QR code that links to a landing page (yet to be created) on Hive (probably peakd) on a sticker. The landing page is where I guess the pitch will sit with links to other information/resources. I'm also playing with having different stickers made, all with the first two calls to action, but varying the third one according to the audience I'm with (writers, community groups, gardeners etc), the audience based around my interests and people I come across in my every day life. So for writers, it might be: join hive. learn crypto. build an audience. or join hive. learn crypto. connect with your readers. too long for a decal? 😂 For community groups: join hive. learn crypto. build funds. I need a designer to help me 😁. Also witty ideas for the third call for different groups say, gardeners or makers and artists,
@dbooster: I don't have a pitch. I don't think Hive as it currently is can compete with any other service out there. The blogging engine is terrible—Wordpress was better than this 20 years ago (I know; I was using it). The design of any of the portals is terrible; true or not, they all look like they were programmed by programmers who think they understand how design works but actually don't understand how design works. We do have a great community here, but that great community is tainted by the "Hive Police"—the Orcas and whales who use their stake to enforce their own standards of morality—who bully and chase away so many people who join. I've been saying it for 8 years and no one has listened, but saying "post for money" doesn't work. It works for some, but then they come here and find they only make a few pennies, and if they try to withdraw those pennies they start to be DVed by the Hive police who yell that they are just extracting value and don't deserve anything. These days it works even less because there are so many other places on the web that pay potentially a lot more. If you work to build to a presence on Medium or Substack, you can earn a lot more than you can here—and you don't have to deal with all the Orcas who get upset with what you do with your money. To go along on that point, I think showing the money each posts makes is terrible. It inspires some people to be jealous, in inspires others to suck up. YouTube doesn't publicly show how much each video makes, books in the store don't show how much the author is making, my WordPress blog doesn't show how much I make from donations to it. I don't think showing the post earnings publicly is useful or beneficial. We should work on the blogging engine here and make it competitive. We have been relying on this "get paid for posting" to make people overlook the absolute terrible blogging engine. Perhaps we can't compete with WordPress, but that is a good target in improving the blogging engine here. If we can do that, then our pitch cam be "Come here to blog, we are decentralized and everything you post will be permanent and not disappear like your old Geocities blog did"
@buttcoins: Lately my pitch has been, be selfish, be Hive. Your uncensorable digital diary. Do it for you, not for money. It’s yours and will always be there to look back on… stored immutable you… your creativity crystallized Store you for free and forever A moldy shoebox of photos and poems or a pristine Digital Legacy? Be Hive
@quark.top: Some honesty, @meno. For the shrinking amount of time I am choosing to being on Hive, I have listened to all of what you have to say. And still ALMOST got up to go on with my day. Without saying anything. Whatsover. For you and anyone else reading my comment, I would suggest these few words alone are " content " to reflect on, if I NOW still chose to get up and go on with my day. Why? From the view of a person who recently chose to begin actively participating on Hive, " between the lines " of these few words, a reader might find: Support for what you are saying to those presumed to be your intended audience. " Seasoned veterans " wondering why Hive is not doing better. Uncomfortable and likely even, from my perception of the " mind games " played in here, unwelcome input to the challenges Hive faces in retaining new accounts. It is crystal clear to me that even a whiff of negativity is discouraged. Which is at least a serious problem, in my view, if not a fatal problem that Hive seems reluctant to even acknowledge, let alone address. Nothing in the real life experience base of this Silver Blogger suggests that will end well for Hive. I'll close with these additional points, for you and your readers, which may be an encouragement to consider carefully what you have chosen to say in this post: This is being written on your account which publishes content with which I am not always in agreement: I read it anyway. It is reasonably well presented, by my perception of " an adult in the room ." So, I know that it is generally an investment of my time worth making. You chose to engage with a new account, when on the surface most would view that as a representing a poor ROI on your time, given Hive's tokenomics. You make an least some effort to show acceptance of differing views. " Over promise and under deliver. " You touch on this, along with also saying the pitch is wrong. I would agree 100%. The "reality check" for those choosing to begin actively participating in this social experiment as it is? If the objective was to create some combination of an obstacle course and a marathon, where only the strongest and fittest survive, let alone thrive? Well done. Change nothing, as you have succeeded. A key word to underscore this above? Decentralized. Sure it is. Not. It does not take long for one to experience the " Golden Rule " applies to Hive, as it does most anywhere else. To whatever extent one might agree with any of this brief input, initial impressions from this new account are that Hive's form of governance is poorly suited to addressing the challenges it faces. There you go. Food for thought for you and others genuinely making an effort to reach some hoped for continuous improvement consensus? Spitting into the wind and more or less a complete waste of my time? Somewhere in between? Readers will have differing opinions, of course. I will leave it with them, as I now get up and go outside into the light.
@meno: @bill.prag dude bro... give me your best pitch. I see you!
@meno: @dbooster I'm going to start calling you guys out... give me your best elevator pitch bro!
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