▶️ Watch on 3Speak --- We’re back: CBRS Podcast, episode 68 It’s been a while. Life got busy (kids on holiday, work, a thousand small things) and honestly, we hadn’t sat down together in weeks eith...
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And we are back at the CBRS studio after... Oh, very... Sometimes, sometimes, yeah, we had the busy period and had other things to do, but hey! We're back. We even have had, like, people asking, like, hey, yeah. Do you need live audience? Yeah, do you need live audience? What happened? It was funny, because I got the message from a friend who's not even Hyvian, who wrote me on WhatsApp, and he's like, yo, I already watched all of that episodes. So he, like, watched all of that. That is really cool, man. And today we're having the 68th. episode after a couple of weeks but yeah it is what it is you know then and we decided okay now it's the time we have something to talk about and we can sit down as always we went grab the coffee brainstormed a little bit at the to kind of like We haven't seen each other for quite some time also, so that's the thing. Yeah, I've been busy because, like, my kids had two weeks vacation. Yeah, so it was like, goodbye free time, taking kids to my work and then from work, ah, man, it was crazy. So, and also busy with some other stuff, which I will, of course, tell the audience what I did. So, yeah. It's been busy. So let's start a little bit with the Big Bang, Bang, Bang, Big Bang in Barcelona. Barcelona, man. So that's our high fest, right? Yes, the Highfest is from 17th to 20th in Barcelona. Aye, aye, aye. Wait. Oh, we had, they... D-daily, what do we, what do we do we have in Barcelona? D-tube form. Yeah, so it's back to Barcelona. This is really nice place. It is not far also, so. Maybe. You know what I did? When I found out, I just wrote to my wife saying, hey, look, Hyfest, I want to go there. She's like, no. So I'll have to talk to her. I really want to go because it's only three days. Exactly. And in very hot weather, you know what's very nice to eat? Cold beetroot soup. Oh! Oh, yeah, oh, man, bring the soup. Yes, sir, yes, sir. I mean, if I could come early in the morning, even though it's on the 17th, just when it's starting, right, it doesn't matter, just go there and then just leave on the 20th in the evening or something like that. It doesn't matter if I can just be there for a couple of days, it would be awesome. Dude, I want to be there, too, so don't say that you're going alone. I'm going to go there, too. I'm going to book it, like... after this podcast. After the podcast, I'm going to check the prices, of course. It's three days, and it's Barcelona, so it's really like an hour flight. Man. Yeah. Or 24 hours with a bus. Oh, yeah. Yeah, with FlixBoss. Because, because... Yeah, it's like... My friends went to Italy. I remember... 26 hours to Italy. I bought, once I bought a ticket with Flix Box, I think, for like five euros. It was like... some kind of deal or whatever, and then suddenly five years, I'm like, ah, yeah, doesn't matter. Taking it. The same, I had one time, back in good old Ryanair days, that from Stansett to Spain was like one peso. No, man. Oh, man. But you needed to wait 36 hours in Stansett. I worked for the layover, you know? That's crazy, man, that's awesome. So, yeah, Barcelona. Highfest is coming, and... Highfest 11. 18th. of September, there's a chain culture going on also in the middle of the whole high -fest. Yeah, so chain culture was kind of a big hit in Malaysia, so that's why it's continuing and it's going to be also in Barcelona. So I'm quite interested how chain culture is going to attract different blockchain enthusiasts and the projects. Yeah. It's very healthy for that kind of thing. Very healthy. Because I know in Malaysia, there's a lot, a lot of things happen. happening in Barcelona, I don't know. I would say, it's also like a big city, you know, so we have all kinds of businesses, projects going on. So, very interesting. Definitely it's, it's appealing to invite everyone who's non-hiverr into this kind of like swirl of hive and not hive things. Still, I think like the idea of chain culture is cool. But I think they should do it more often, not only, not once a year when Hife is there. The thing is nice that it blends. It does blend, but chain culture has a different kind of, I don't know how to explain it, but I think chain culture, if you can do it at least like two times a year, because, like, we should kind of fast forward everything on Hive. because, yeah, accelerate some stuff because at this moment we are kind of throwing away a lot of money. See the price. Yeah, I understand that, but like, if we want to start building something more on Hive or like have projects using Hive technology, right? We kind of have to accelerate it. and get the projects to get more attention that's why I'm thinking like chain cultures should go a little bit more often than just once a year because it is kind of it is a good idea because you do kind of bring everybody together and show what Hive is and you know it's like a promo of Hive to the project that could use a technology yeah exactly and it's just one day right so It shouldn't be that crazy expensive. You don't have to go crazy expensive. Or it should be something like a hub traveling through the other like births, whatever, expos and stuff. Yeah, yeah. We'll see maybe after it makes a name for itself that it will kind of be different. So we'll check it out. Podcast 68. Yay! Do you know the position 68? Why are we going with the positions? Because why not? No, I don't want to know. You know it. I know the next podcast who will go, like, woohoo, six. Nah! You never, you don't know position 68? No. Maybe I do, but I'm like... It's when she sucks me off and I owe her one. oh my god and that's where we're going to positions there's a perfect landed joke you heard it hit us oh my god Yeah, you know, I have a girlfriend, but in other nation. In which nation? Imagination. And that was literally, literally, like, the whole time when we were going to get coffee, even we haven't seen each other for like three weeks or something. You just open the door and, like, jokes after jokes after jokes after jokes. Oh, man, that's crazy, right? How do you call a woman that likes to howl? No, how do you call a man that likes to howl? A woman! Oh, man! Oh, that's a good time, good time. But yeah, we also, it was a couple of weeks ago, I think, the Hive got implemented also in code, is Taudis wallet. Yeah. Which is implemented in 200 countries, it's a multi-chain wallet, so that's very cool. Like, oh, you, whoa. Yeah, I'm sorry, yeah. No, I mean... I mean, I think it should be like more of these kind of things. We were going towards that and then we kind of stopped and everything. But I don't know, like how does it work? Do we as Hive pay now the wallet for Hive to be implemented there? Most of the time, yes. And most of the time it's quite some money. It's like 25,000, $35,000. Do we have that kind of information on Hive? I don't know. I'm very interested, like the transparency sometimes is just gone, man. Maybe I didn't see it. But I like to see that transparency, like, hey, guys, we just spent 40,000 of your money, so we are going to be in this wallet. Okay, if we're going to be in this wallet, what is the deal, number one? And what is the forecast, number two? What do you think, Hive, what is Hive going to gain from that? Because now, it's an investment from the community, right? So you want to know that. Like, last time also there was this project with, I don't know, some kind of wallet or some kind of card. Remember, like, they had this 20,000 hive giveaway who will be doing the most transactions or something like that. And we were never told the whole information. Because value plan was doing that. So it was a project of value plan to invest 20,000 or 40,000 or how much hive into that stuff. When people were like, the hell is going on, I have no idea. It's cool, the project, but tell us more. Tell us more. And until this day, I wasn't able to make it work. So I tried it, huh? Back then, I tried it. I couldn't get HBD to work that I could buy with their card. I could not activate any card. I couldn't do anything, so I just stopped and I say, bye-bye, goodbye. So I don't know what's going to happen with that project. Did we throw away money? Yes, no, I don't know. It's like sometimes I feel like it's like a gamble or something like that on these kind of projects. Some of the things, it might be a gamble, especially like being implemented in wallets is pretty important because you open different sources of people trading and et cetera, et cetera, different markets and stuff. But yeah, yeah, it's good to be everywhere. Yeah, everyone should be on hype. Yeah, I came across the Inope. We saw them, he said that he was presenting. I think it was at Aachen Summit. I think he was like presenting it, talking about it, and now it's small steps, but... Small steps, they started in Luxembourg. Yeah. They had like four, I think spaces, like venues, restaurants and etc. bars that were accepted in HBD. Yeah. They had like a digital menu so you can straight away check from their app. Right. Nice. Like you log in and you see the menus of the places. And now they settled first international partner outside of Luxembourg. Nice. It's the Zambar in Bucharest is the first venue in Romania where you can pay with HBD. Yeah. So that's really cool. And I'm very interested, is anyhow connected to this creator. No, I think it's completely different thing. No, I think this creator is kind of on hold, I think. Yeah, yeah, I think this raider is on hold. I'm not sure we have to talk to Starkers. It's been a while. It's been a while, we should actually speak to Starkers where he is, because now he's a... busy a lot with, they call me Dan, with SPK network, you know, they're finishing that stuff up because there's a lot of time and money invested into this project and it has to be kind of already brought out. And eventually we do want to see, we do want to kind of have that. possibility to rent space for like our terabytes on the computer just get all the terabytes put it to the computer like, ah, I'm renting, give me hype. So that kind of stuff. So I'm very curious when it's going to be ready and hey, no DHF, right? That's like the beauty of Starcerson, they call me then, when they do something, they pay everybody outside of no people that are helping them with their own money yeah without the HF yeah and that's how it was used to be all in the old days when we did not have the the HF or like we had the HF but like very small size all posts yeah it was all posts yeah it was all people people helping people that's that's how it was now everybody wants to get paid and, you know, it's, it's going, it's, man, soon we're going to go into millions. Yeah. It's crazy, man. It is pretty crazy. Yeah, and like speaking about DHF. Speaking about millions. About millions. So we have Magi, the new one. First, it was, when they were still a VSE, they got half a million, and now they're asking for three hundred thirty thousand again. And still we, I mean, they do show that they did a lot, probably. The developing is going. Their liquidity pool is now very small. It's about 2000 or something like that. But as I heard or like read some comments, a lot of Butterfly was saying that some big whale from hive is going to, you know, fill it up. Okay, that's cool. But we need clients, right? We need people using Magi. Without that, it doesn't even matter what you have. So I'm curious how that's going to happen. Because marketing portion, well, probably. You know, I'm kind of like seeing this as once you invest big into a project, it's either you stop right away. and don't put any money in it because you just lost half a million, or there is no way back and you have to continue and continue till it or dies or really become something. So, you know, I don't know what kind of forecast Lord Butterfly can give us. What is his main goal? Does he, what is his vision and how he sees it work, you know, like, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the percentage of how you call it, the percentages of, that is going to work, like how high his hopes, not hopes, but like, how high is, how high is, um, does he think that it's going to work? Yeah, yeah, right? Like, and why? Like, give us, like, really some kind of structure of information and the process of what you're going to do, right? Because it is 330,000, especially when now our beloved blockchain is kind of, you know, in a verge of, like, going more down. It's six cents. It's crazy. Like, we're used to 20 cents when it's already kind of slow, but six cents, it's just, It's bananas. Sixth Sense. Oh my God. I see that blockchain. Oh, my God, I see that. No, don't say that. No, no death whistles here. I think I see that. blockchain. No, no, no, no, no. Six cents. And so, and then after that, exactly when Magi is asking for 30,000, we have a hive keychain asking for another 195 or something like that, I don't forget, I forgot. 100 something again, or 170,000. And what I'm trying to say is, we are in a position right now, I have nothing against the Hive Keychain. They did an incredible job. They're great. But from another perspective, Hive keychain is now the most used wallet or the only, almost the only wallet that is used for Hive. Whenever they will ask for DHF, they will always get it. Because without them, Hive is going to go like, bah, right? So everybody has to kind of, then, they will scatter around, they have to figure out, oh, wait, we can still use this, this to log into Hive, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? But Hive Kitchen, keychain, half like that. Hive Kitchen. Hive Kitchen, oh my God. Hive Kitchen, oh, my God. We're cooking. So, hi, Kitchen, have like a monopoly, and if they need DHF, it doesn't matter how much, they'll ask, and they'll get it. Because without it, we kind of, we're in a bad position. And that's what I mean when you start giving out the HF so easily, these projects suddenly have the, you know, the upper hand and you have to kind of, oh, okay, yeah, now we cannot go anywhere, we have to continue and fund them. That's why I'm so happy when we had in Leo that the first time we funded, it was good, and the next time we've seen that it's not really going the way everybody hoped and we did not fund them. And that's how it shouldn't actually be and we should do with things in milestones. Yeah. And I hope that still DHF will kind of evolve to a better way and just work in milestones. You did this milestone and in the first or second milestone, there has to be some kind of like proof of that you are going to make some money and if you want to do some kind and if you want to have another funding, you already have to make some kind of income. Yeah. You have to figure out some sort of plan to earn. No, not even plan. Like, till the next DHF, you already have to start making revenue. Yeah. So in your one-year plan, you should already have at least after nine months, this is when we, at least something, right? Yeah. That you have to prove that this is where you already start making revenue to kind of be self-sustained. Yeah, or at least partially sustained, you know. Partly sustained, yeah, but then if you see that, then the next DHA proposal, okay, then you can start again getting in milestones, because that's a push to help you get more revenue, right? Or you do it how Menno is doing it. He did everything already, everything was working. or was it Meno or was it they called me Mark? I think Meno. Meno, right? Yeah, with Snapy. Yeah, everything was working, this is what he did, boom, I would like to get some money. Good, there you go, I already see you did something. You have a product, it's working, bam. And that's how it should be. Yeah. Or at least now also. It's, man, milestones, just milestones. Milestone one, did, done, good, we're happy. Here's your money. You see the results? Right? Yeah, exactly. But yeah, if we will go there, I don't know, but that's the idea. I think it will be the best for, from the community, because actually, yeah. It just, it just kind of like bulletproofs a little bit, the spendings, you know? Yeah, yeah. And we should be quite. aware about what we're spending. Yeah. Acidio released Scrabble. Scrabble. Oh, it's actually, Acidio is doing a ton of work. A lot of kind of things, you know. I see him on X, you know, is like, I haven't been here for a while. Are you still there? Yes, we're still here. But, Scrabble. Live. Yeah, Scrabble. Live. So what does you do? I don't know, you tell you. From what I understood, it stores your music in what you listen from multiple platforms. Yeah, so like YouTube, Spotify, you know, all kind of platforms there are. And so let's say you're kind of browsing, you're listening to music here, you're listening to music there. And Scrabble would kind of like fix, like remembers what you were looking. We were searching for listening to and it kind of stores it on high blockchain, the information. Does it store information? Does it literally store the music? That's the question. I didn't read a lot about it, but I think it stores even the music because Meno. Mena was the one who implemented voice messages. Voice messages. Yes. And that's when I think I see it was like, ah, right messages, that's music to my air. Spraddle. Live. Ta-da-da-pa-pa-pa-pa-be -boo! Yes. So I think that's how it happens. Because I think I've seen a message or a comment on Meno's post the other day when he just posted about this. And I think I see it was like, oh, that's great. He was kind of interested. And I think that's where the idea came from. Or maybe he had the idea already. And then finally, somebody made this. And he's like, yeah, now I can continue. So, yeah. But these are the moments when. community working together, right? Somebody finishes some kind of project, implements something, and somebody was, like, waiting for something like that, like, yes, I can continue. And that's how we kind of can push each other with all these projects. Somebody makes some simple games with the hub, you know, and everybody's like, hey, I can do that too. Yeah. Um, Essency just released operational transparency and infrastructure insights of 2025, 2026. Take an example, guys. Take an example, guys, this is what transparency looks like. Yeah. And that's one thing, well, not only thing, but that's one of the things that the S&C is doing really, really well, is showing all the information, showing everything would happen, you know, and then... That's how you can say like, okay, we see everything what happened. Yeah, everything was done, et cetera, et cetera. Reporting is very important. But that was one of the main incomes for projects back in the day. Because you would make a report on something that you finished and people would vote in it. That would go back into your account. That's how the HF milestones should be working. You make a report. This is what we did. You show what you did, and everybody's Lobos, like, yeah, you pick a game, motherfucker, let's go. I'm sorry, I'm very excited. That is true, you know, and in that kind of sense, all these reports also can go in off-blockchain media for... other people to see what kind of progress the Hive blockchain and a Hive project has, you know, they can go into medium, it can go to anywhere else, you know. So that's how we also promote development in a Hive blockchain. Yeah. But you want more developers on the Hive as well. Oh, hell, yeah. If these kind of, if the projects can, like, show. Especially now that anybody can be a developer. Oh, with AI? Yes. Even me, man, even I can be a developer. I've been developing. Do you know that I'm now a meteor developer? I'm not a junior. No, no, no, sir, things I can do now as a developer. Damn, I can build stuff. Yeah? Ah, only 12 weeks. No, no, no. Four. A bit more. No, no, no. Yeah, but no, the thing that I'm... building now, I've been working on it for five weeks. Yeah. And it's, I have to say, amazing.…