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In this series we will be speaking to various people who question the ethics and wisdom of reproduction. This is the full length recording featuring the YouTuber Antinatalist Outreach
who can be found here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcbf...
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Reproduction Skeptics Series - Episode 1
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In this series we will be speaking to various people who question the ethics and wisdom of reproduction. This is the full length recording featuring the YouTuber Antinatalist Outreach
who can be found here
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcbf...
00:00 start
00:35 when did you become an antinatalist?
01:40 procreation is a lottery
04:15 watching someone die
09:20 what about the good things?
15:00 Is happiness selfish
18:00 filling the void with a child
21:00 Is sex deplorable?
25:45 Are men insatiable?
30:00 The good news about antinatalism
42:00 Why don't antinatalists commit suicide?
47:00 Covid and antinatalism?
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Christine Moerman
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Eye Doubt It
2 days ago
"Life is the most harmful STD" ....great line.
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126makin
2 days ago
Sorry to be so shallow - but i much prefer you with a megaphone in your hand.
And i had to google them bcs i'm not educated like yourselves - but two famous quotes spring to mind "To live is to suffer..." and [procreating is a] "triumph of hope over experience."
Like yourselves i have done the "death watch" over suffering parents and to a much lesser extent over much loved family pets - and i was amazed and humbled by their determination to cling to 'life' right to the very end.
Curiously my own father was a proto - antinatalist (favourite saying - "without children i could have been a someone, a contender") - and he was the most self-centered man i have ever met.
A J
1 day ago
So to recap, antinatalists don't want people to have children because of the suffering that living brings. So if life is suffering they don't see the point of procreating basically leading the species to extinction which logically means that it's a good thing to not live and suffer anymore. How much suffering is acceptable for an antinatalist to not be an antinatalist anymore? What if no more STD or cancers, would the rest of the suffering be okay as a burden of life? If no suffering is acceptable, then for an antinatalist to not be an antinatalist anymore the world they would want is very subjective to them as pink rabbits, rainbows and fairies may be considered suffering. What is an antinatalist ideal world that includes life?
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Gillian Fitton
3 days ago (edited)
The Gnostic's thought the same about reproduction. They forbade penetrative sex to prevent conception and held ceremonies where they would celebrate discarded sperm.👍 Anyway, they believed the Demiurge and not 'God' created all of this existence and this demiurge survives on the negative energy caused by human / sentient suffering and fear which keeps it and his fellow archons (demons) energised. Therefore, when you reproduce you are providing 'food' for this monstrous being. Obviously, this is not something I would repeat on mumsnet but nevertheless it needs to be said 🙂👍 hi Danny love and best wishes 📣❤
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